Anyone know of any good ones? Inspiration for ourselves and others is always good!
Utiliatarian Quotes?
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"In a society in which the narrow pursuit of material self-interest is the norm, the shift to an ethical stance is more radical than many people realize. In comparison with the needs of people starving in Somalia, the desire to sample the wines of the leading French vineyards pales into insignificance. Judged against the suffering of immobilized rabbits having shampoos dripped into their eyes, a better shampoo becomes an unworthy goal. An ethical approach to life does not forbid having fun or enjoying food and wine, but it changes our sense of priorities. The effort and expense put into buying fashionable clothes, the endless search for more and more refined gastronomic pleasures, the astonishing additional expense that marks out the prestige car market in cars from the market in cars for people who just want a reliable means to getting from A to B, all these become disproportionate to people who can shift perspective long enough to take themselves, at least for a time, out of the spotlight. If a higher ethical consciousness spreads, it will utterly change the society in which we live."
-- Peter Singer
"A mere five decades ago, we thought that only white people deserved the front of the bus. A mere century ago, we thought that woman were too stupid to vote. Two centuries ago, we thought that only land-owning white men mattered and native americans were things to be killed. Four centuries ago, we thought that rule by kings was the best way to arrange a government and that our opinions about how the universe was created should be spread by swords. We've come a long way, but it makes you wonder what things we're doing wrong that will take decades more to uncover." -- Me
-- Peter Singer
"A mere five decades ago, we thought that only white people deserved the front of the bus. A mere century ago, we thought that woman were too stupid to vote. Two centuries ago, we thought that only land-owning white men mattered and native americans were things to be killed. Four centuries ago, we thought that rule by kings was the best way to arrange a government and that our opinions about how the universe was created should be spread by swords. We've come a long way, but it makes you wonder what things we're doing wrong that will take decades more to uncover." -- Me
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peterhurford - Posts: 410
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There are some good ones on http://www.utilitarian.net/
"These were my only good shoes."
"You ought to have put on an old pair, if you wished to go a-diving," said Professor Graham, who had not studied moral philosophy in vain.
"You ought to have put on an old pair, if you wished to go a-diving," said Professor Graham, who had not studied moral philosophy in vain.
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Arepo - Posts: 1065
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"Were I to invoke logic, however, logic clearly dictates that the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few." --Spock
Consequentialism: The belief that doing the right thing makes the world a better place.
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DanielLC - Posts: 703
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I recently liked this one I stumbled upon today
"That's one of the great things about utilitarianism, actually: It's a form of unconditional love. No matter who the organism is or what he/she has done, his/her happiness and suffering still count just the same." -- Brian Tomasik
"That's one of the great things about utilitarianism, actually: It's a form of unconditional love. No matter who the organism is or what he/she has done, his/her happiness and suffering still count just the same." -- Brian Tomasik
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Personal Site: www.peterhurford.com
Utilitarian Blog: Everyday Utilitarian
Direct Influencer Scoreboard: 2 Meatless Monday-ers, 1 Vegetarian, and 2 Giving What We Can 10% pledges.
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peterhurford - Posts: 410
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These are from my Facebook page (not that I use Facebook), and some of them were stolen from others' Facebook or web pages. They're not all explicitly utilitarian, but they can be given a utilitarian interpretation.
If you wish to be good, first believe that you are bad.
—Epictetus
It is easy for us to criticize the prejudices of our grandfathers, from which our fathers freed themselves. It is more difficult to distance ourselves from our own views, so that we can dispassionately search for prejudices among the beliefs and values we hold.
—Peter Singer
The question is not, Can they reason? nor, Can they talk? but, Can they suffer?
—Jeremy Bentham
The total amount of suffering per year in the natural world is beyond all decent contemplation. During the minute it takes me to compose this sentence, thousands of animals are being eaten alive; others are running for their lives, whimpering with fear; others are being slowly devoured from within by rasping parasites; thousands of all kinds are dying of starvation, thirst and disease.
—Richard Dawkins
The pain endured by a fish afflicted with parasites or a rat swallowed alive by a snake is no more tolerable than the "natural" suffering of humans due to malaria, cancer, or starvation.
—Brian Tomasik
If I had been present at creation, I would have given some useful hints.
—Alfonso the Wise
They tell you what its ingredients are and how it's guaranteed to exterminate every insect in the world, but they do not tell you whether it's painless. And I say, insect or man, death should always be painless.
—Customer examining insecticide label in Alfred Hitchcock's Psycho
If you wish to be good, first believe that you are bad.
—Epictetus
It is easy for us to criticize the prejudices of our grandfathers, from which our fathers freed themselves. It is more difficult to distance ourselves from our own views, so that we can dispassionately search for prejudices among the beliefs and values we hold.
—Peter Singer
The question is not, Can they reason? nor, Can they talk? but, Can they suffer?
—Jeremy Bentham
The total amount of suffering per year in the natural world is beyond all decent contemplation. During the minute it takes me to compose this sentence, thousands of animals are being eaten alive; others are running for their lives, whimpering with fear; others are being slowly devoured from within by rasping parasites; thousands of all kinds are dying of starvation, thirst and disease.
—Richard Dawkins
The pain endured by a fish afflicted with parasites or a rat swallowed alive by a snake is no more tolerable than the "natural" suffering of humans due to malaria, cancer, or starvation.
—Brian Tomasik
If I had been present at creation, I would have given some useful hints.
—Alfonso the Wise
They tell you what its ingredients are and how it's guaranteed to exterminate every insect in the world, but they do not tell you whether it's painless. And I say, insect or man, death should always be painless.
—Customer examining insecticide label in Alfred Hitchcock's Psycho
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Pat - Posts: 111
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If we take for granted that consciousness evolved, consciousness would somehow have to promote survival and reproduction in order to be selected for. If consciousness did not promote survival and preproduction, it would not be selected for, and to the extent that it were biologically costly, it would be selected against. The only way consciousness could promote survival and reproduction, moreover, is by virtue of guiding an organism’s actions, prompting it to perform survival and reproduction enhancing actions – and the only way in which consciousness could prompt an organism towards survival and reproduction seems to be by imbuing experiences with a certain valence or a pro/con attitude. Without a valence or a pro/con attitude, it is unclear how an experience would be able to guide an organism’s actions. Evolution, moreover, cares for action, not for experiences as an end in itself. It therefore seems that if consciousness were to ever get going, valence would have to be present from the very start. Otherwise, consciousness would disappear as fast as it occurred. This suggests that hedonic valence phylogentically is as old as consciousness itself, which in turn lends support to the view that hedonic valence lies at the heart of consciousness. This supports dimensionalism, moreover, since according to dimensionalism, pleasure and pain—rather than being two things out of the many things we can experience—imbues all [...] our experiences. Indeed, one might, from a dimensionalist approach to consciousness, argue that the first experience any organism ever had was an experience of either pleasure or pain, and that consciousness of the kind our species has today is a more fine-grained version of something that is most fundamentally a pleasure/pain mechanism.
Ole Martin Moen, ‘The Unity and Commensurability of Pleasures and Pains’, Philosophia, vol. 41, no. 2 (June, 2013), pp. 540-541
"‘Méchanique Sociale’ may one day take her place along with ‘Mécanique Celeste’, throned each upon the double-sided height of one maximum principle, the supreme pinnacle of moral as of physical science." -- Francis Ysidro Edgeworth
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Pablo Stafforini - Posts: 177
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I have collected a number of relevant quotes here.
"‘Méchanique Sociale’ may one day take her place along with ‘Mécanique Celeste’, throned each upon the double-sided height of one maximum principle, the supreme pinnacle of moral as of physical science." -- Francis Ysidro Edgeworth
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Pablo Stafforini - Posts: 177
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Pablo, I really like the Moen quote, which supports a suspicion I've held but never had much of an argument for - that emotion and consciousness are the same thing, or at least different facets of the same phenomenon. Do you have the full paper?
Also, that's the first time I've ever seen the epithet 'dimensionalism' in this context. Do you know its origin/other instances of it?
Also, that's the first time I've ever seen the epithet 'dimensionalism' in this context. Do you know its origin/other instances of it?
"These were my only good shoes."
"You ought to have put on an old pair, if you wished to go a-diving," said Professor Graham, who had not studied moral philosophy in vain.
"You ought to have put on an old pair, if you wished to go a-diving," said Professor Graham, who had not studied moral philosophy in vain.
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Arepo - Posts: 1065
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Elijah, thank you. This quote brings up very important points. I'm thinking of the First World War, which might have also been on C. S. Lewis's mind. But there was also a lot of 'atrocity mongering' during the war on drugs in the 1980s, and very directly during the build up to the Persian Gulf War in 1991.
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Snow Leopard - Posts: 40
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I have forgotten the source of this quote, but it is from Bhutan, in the 1600s, I believe.
"No government which does not make its people happy has reason to exist."
Bhutan's current government sees happiness as progress, rather than wealth.
"No government which does not make its people happy has reason to exist."
Bhutan's current government sees happiness as progress, rather than wealth.
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Existent - Posts: 17
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