Turn discussions into blog posts

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Turn discussions into blog posts

Postby Brian Tomasik on 2013-02-19T04:19:00

Introduction

Some friends made a comment recently that stuck with me: People spend a lot of time discussing among themselves on Facebook (whether privately or on threads), and often, the ideas aren't preserved or shared with a wider audience. There are two problems here.

Problem #1: The information is repeated over and over to the same people, when it could be reaching new people.

This is tricky. It requires sustained time and effort to share a blog post with a wide audience. I often hesitate to start discussions on Facebook (or especially LessWrong) because I know that if I do, I may need to reply to extensive comments for hours afterward. Maybe I don't actually need to reply to everyone, but I feel bad if I don't; perhaps I should change that instinct, although I also worry about people seeing me as insensitive as a result.

The other reason it can be hard to reach new audiences is that you have to find them. There are ways to do this -- e.g., going to new forums, posting on the Facebook group of a related organization that's not already aware of the issues, etc. The point is this takes some effort, although it's often worth it. Anyway, for now, I'm writing this post among the same old crowd on Felicifia because I want to keep the replies to a manageable level -- a direct illustration of what I just said. :)

One other way to combat Problem #1 is for someone else to share the post for you. That way, readers will think you may not have seen the comments, which means you're not obliged to reply. For this reason I don't mind at all when people share my posts on my behalf.

Another benefit when others share your posts is that it ensures some degree of peer review. Not every post is useful enough to be shared in the first place. If someone shares it organically, it's more likely worth sharing. A similar goal is accomplished by Likes on Facebook leading to a post being promoted more in news feeds.

Problem #2: New insights are produced, but they aren't preserved in an easily accessible or shareable manner.

This issue arises when Facebook discussions become long, ponderous, and contextually burdened. People may have to read 50 replies to know what's going on. It's hard to link to a Facebook comment and say "this is what I'm trying to say" in a later conversation because the person won't want to read the whole thing. Sometimes Facebook conversations aren't publicly shared. And even when they are, they're not easily searched, and they're not indexed by search engines.

On the other hand, if you want to share something with broad reach, Facebook tends to be the way to go. It's hard to share with a similar number of people elsewhere, and one advantage of Facebook is that posts can be read by your non-utilitarian friends to get them interested too. The Like functionality of Facebook is really awesome for showing and collecting feedback.

Thus, there's this awkward limbo situation where Facebook doesn't serve all of our needs (easy linkability, preservation, searchability), yet we can't do without it either in terms of sharing and collecting feedback. Peter and I discussed this, and we decided the best strategy for now is to write blog posts somewhere else (e.g., on Felicifia) and then link to them on Facebook. Alas, this leads to a balkanization of comments where some people comment on the original forum and some comment on Facebook. It's a mess. Maybe one day it will be resolved.

Anyway, in the meanwhile: When you do have conversations on Facebook, it may be a good idea to extract the essential juices from them and convert those into a blog post (or something else linkable without burdensome context, like an opening Felicifia post) so that the ideas can be preserved for future sharing rather than getting lost. The same applies for verbal or private textual discussions.

This isn't a hard rule. It's sort of like the question of whether you should take notes at a meeting: Sometimes it makes sense to ensure you keep track of important things and can share them widely, but sometimes it's a waste of time. But it is at least worth thinking about who and how many will read your Facebook comments and whether those comments continue to provide value after the immediate discussion ends.

Finally, I don't want to sound Scrooge-like. Many times Facebook comments are about having fun with friends rather than evangelism or serious conversation. That's fine and good. I'm referring to cases where you expend energy writing a lengthy comment reply that may in fact have limited reach or may be preaching to the choir. I write plenty of those myself, and they're often not a bad use of time. But there remains the question whether you could make even better use of the time by writing similar things in a different place.

A related, hybrid idea that I've started doing is to write a comment on Facebook that's sensitive to the context of the conversation but then link to an external post that contains a more standalone description of my thoughts. The latter is more linkable and preservable. (One problem with this is that people are far less likely to read the contents of a link than they are to read something directly on Facebook. This tends to incentivize excessive copying of text, though maybe that's the best we can do. It would be interesting to learn what fraction of Facebook readers actually click through on links in conversations.)
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Re: Turn discussions into blog posts

Postby Arepo on 2013-02-19T17:53:00

Maybe we should try doing some semi-control experiments to see the different response rates for link-OPs on Facebook versus text originally written there.

A third option is to mimic the newspaper (and FB) kicker-style - start writing a teaser, then link to the post for the full argument. This might depend a lot on the quality of your opening paragraph though.
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Re: Turn discussions into blog posts

Postby Brian Tomasik on 2013-02-20T03:12:00

Arepo wrote:A third option is to mimic the newspaper (and FB) kicker-style - start writing a teaser, then link to the post for the full argument. This might depend a lot on the quality of your opening paragraph though.

Yeah, although I suspect (pending the data collection that you proposed) that >80% of people don't click through, so it's probably best to give the conclusion in the first few sentences of your FB post. In general, I think it's good policy to summarize what you're trying to say in less than a paragraph for most essays you write. Originally the essays on my website were written in a meandering style without summaries at the top. Then, in 2007, Robin Hanson told me I should add short abstracts, so I began doing that. My unvalidated conjecture is that this simple change has increased the impact of my website quite a bit (20%? 50%?) because it allows more people to figure out what I'm trying to say without reading the whole piece.
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